I saw this recent account on YouTube recently and wondered if anyone had any good spook stories? Haunted books? Ouija boards? Apparitions? Protestant boyfriends?
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Anyone Heard Any Good DEMON Stories Lately?
by Cold Steel ini saw this recent account on youtube recently and wondered if anyone had any good spook stories?
haunted books?
ouija boards?
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Do religious people fear that their religion may be wrong???
by James Mixon inbecause there are so many religions in the world and it is obvious that no matter what the truth is, a large population of people will be wrong about it.
we at one time believe we had the truth and 99% of the world population were in darkness, but i wonder about folks in other religions today.
speaking with a christian friend about this and he told me," that's for god to decide, i hope i'am serving god"...the sad thing about all of this if one die and still believe in his religion, he will never know he was in the wrong religion.
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David_Jay » 1 Corinthians 15:29 is not foreign to Judaism. Baptism is based on the Jewish practice of "tevilah." Converts to Judaism would engage in tevilah by immersion ( the Greek word from which "baptism" comes from) in an immersion pool or tub called a "mikveh." The experience symbolized rising from death to a new life in Judaism. But tevilah in a mikveh is also required by Torah if one comes into contact with a dead body. One "washes away death," so to speak, by means of this.
Sorry it's taken so long to get back to you, but my wife's been sick with a summer flu, and it's been like summer here.
The thing about baptism for the dead, yes, I knew about the Jewish rites of baptism and I've seen the places of purification prior to entering the temple. But rites of purification that have to do with immersion have little to do with Christian baptism.
And baptism for the dead has nothing to do with the ritual purification of the dead. The apostle is clearly not speaking about immersing dead bodies because he's speaking about the resurrection of the dead. Christians view the rite of baptism to be redemptive, and an ordinance, not a rite of purification. It's symbolic, with the immersion of man in the likeness of the Messiah's death, and in coming forth out of the tomb in a newness of life as Jesus came forth in the resurrection.
The Lord teaches us through symbolism. In our book of Moses, Adam was taught about the nature of God and the Messiah: “And after many days an angel of the Lord appeared unto Adam, saying: ‘Why dost thou offer sacrifices unto the Lord?’ And Adam said unto him: ‘I know not, save the Lord commanded me.’ And then the angel spake, saying: ‘This thing is asimilitude of the sacrifice of the Only Begotten of the Father, which is full of grace and truth. Wherefore, thou shalt do all that thou doest in thename of the Son, and thou shalt repent and call upon God in the name of the Son forevermore.’” (Moses 6)
And Paul, who like many first century was deeply schooled in Judaism, stated: “Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the deadby the glory of the Father, even so we also should walkin newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection.” (Romans 6) Note that he didn't liken it in any way to the purification ceremonies practiced by the Jews of his day. Indeed, John performed his baptisms in a river far from the temple.
Early Christians saw baptism for the dead as a vicarious baptism for someone who has passed on. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the washing of dead bodies. (See Baptism for the Dead).
You also mentioned our agreement with the state of Israel and suggested because of what I told you that we might renege. This is not true. When the days of the Gentiles ends, and the gospel is once more taken to the Jews, it will not be in violation of an existing agreement, but an abrogation of that agreement by the Jewish authorities themselves.
The prophet Zechariah speaks of the return of the Messiah in glory, saying, “And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart.” (Zechariah 12:9-12)
According to Christian eschatology, the Jews will, again, in a single day, will come to realize that Jesus is the Christ, and that they had rejected him in the days of his first coming. This is why they will break into mourning across the land. What should have been a joyous occasion will instead be overshadowed with grief. In a modern revelation, the Lord confirms this exegesis when he states, “And then shall the Jews look upon me and say: What are these wounds in thine hands and in thy feet? Then shall they know that I am the Lord; for I will say unto them: These wounds are the wounds with which I was a wounded in the house of my friends. I am he who was lifted up. I am Jesus that was crucified. I am the Son of God. And then shall they weep because of their iniquities; then shall they lament because they persecuted their king. And then shall the a heathen nations be redeemed, and they that knew no law shall have part in the first resurrection; and it shall be tolerable for them.” (D&C 45)
As someone who is himself a Jew, if you were to suddenly discover that, despite your expectations and beliefs, that Jesus is indeed the Messiah, would you not accept him? (And, conversely, if I were to suddenly discover that, despite my convictions, my beliefs in Jesus were in error, would I not want to put them behind me and believe in him no more?) We, indeed, do differ on much as Christians and Jews. Our beliefs in the nature of God, the identity and purpose of the Messiah, our rites and ordinances, how we view the temple, the afterlife, judgment, the return of the prophet Elijah and many other things. You may also wish to read the Book of Mormon to determine the differences between modern Jews and those living in 600 BCE. Those living in the city who were Lehi's primary enemies were convinced they were good people and had done nothing wrong. They were incensed (as were two of Lehi's sons) at the suggestion that they were wicked and would be destroyed because of their wickedness. Even in the wilderness, when Lehi had been told of the city's destruction, his sons refuted to believe it.
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Do religious people fear that their religion may be wrong???
by James Mixon inbecause there are so many religions in the world and it is obvious that no matter what the truth is, a large population of people will be wrong about it.
we at one time believe we had the truth and 99% of the world population were in darkness, but i wonder about folks in other religions today.
speaking with a christian friend about this and he told me," that's for god to decide, i hope i'am serving god"...the sad thing about all of this if one die and still believe in his religion, he will never know he was in the wrong religion.
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Here's one of the Academy of Temple Studies' presentations featuring Methodist scholar Margaret Barker. Her topic is how Christians view the temple.
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Do religious people fear that their religion may be wrong???
by James Mixon inbecause there are so many religions in the world and it is obvious that no matter what the truth is, a large population of people will be wrong about it.
we at one time believe we had the truth and 99% of the world population were in darkness, but i wonder about folks in other religions today.
speaking with a christian friend about this and he told me," that's for god to decide, i hope i'am serving god"...the sad thing about all of this if one die and still believe in his religion, he will never know he was in the wrong religion.
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David_Jay » ...religions like the LDS are just like the JWs In claiming to know the accurate truth about things but actually proving to be unfamiliar with much of what they claim to understand.
I agree with what you're saying when it comes to the JWs, but we LDS have numerous recognized scholars of ancient scripture and LDS scholars helped found the Academy of Temple Studies that feature a host of scholars in both Jewish and Christian circles. The LDS church also maintains a close relationship with Israel, its culture, history and theology. It's not that we don't understand the Jews; it's that we're not always in agreement with them, especially when the revelations of God we receive differ from Jewish understanding. After all, we believe our God is the same as the Jewish God.
We just have to live with these differences of opinion. They aren't there because we don't understand them. Christians accept Jesus as our Messiah. If he comes and it's not Jesus, then we'll be wrong. But if he comes and it is him, the Jews will become Christians in a single day.
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Do religious people fear that their religion may be wrong???
by James Mixon inbecause there are so many religions in the world and it is obvious that no matter what the truth is, a large population of people will be wrong about it.
we at one time believe we had the truth and 99% of the world population were in darkness, but i wonder about folks in other religions today.
speaking with a christian friend about this and he told me," that's for god to decide, i hope i'am serving god"...the sad thing about all of this if one die and still believe in his religion, he will never know he was in the wrong religion.
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Vanderhoven7 » It's good to have a healthy fear of being associated with a dangerous religious group in light of Jesus' warning about false prophets. Healthy fear causes people to take careful stalk before commitment.
At this point I don't see any reason to accept Joseph Smith as a true prophet of God...but I await your reasons that I should.
Why should people believe the claims of Joseph Smith? I can only speak for myself, but as I've said elsewhere, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the only church in our time that meets all the requirements of a religion founded by God. Joseph Smith had nothing to gain by embarking on a career that would lead to persecution, severe hardship and ultimately death. Peter told the Jews of his day of the great “restoration of all things” that would come -- and that's what the LDS faith is, the foundation of the restoration of things. We know of the dire warning that before the great day of the Lord, a “falling away” (apostasia) would occur. Interestingly, in the early 1800s, a religious fervor struck the United States as a number of theologians realized that the first century church had apostatized and that a restoration was needed to set things right. Alexander Campbell was one of the most noteworthy ones, but though he and the Baptists appealed to many, his colleague Sidney Rigdon realized that the necessary authority was missing. Other small restorationist sects were started, but most fell into obscurity. Later, when Adventist churches arose, Charles Taze Russell and later, Joseph Rutherford, began what's now known as the Jehovah's Witnesses, but they also lacked divine authority to bind on Heaven and Earth.
Alexander Campbell was the writer behind what would become the churches of Christ, but Sidney Rigdon was the orator. Rigdon, however, was convinced that while Campbell's views on doctrine were sound, no man on Earth had the authority to act in God's name. So when he heard Mormon elders preaching that this authority had been restored, he became convinced that what they were preaching was true, but Campbell remained opposed to Joseph Smith and founded his own church, claiming it was the church Jesus started in the first century. But if so, Rigdon and others asked, who was the Christian who ordained Campbell, and who ordained him and so forth back to Christ? That niggling issue caused a divide in Campbell's group and he lost more than a few of his people.
Today, very few Christian movements even discuss divine authority. Ask any Jehovah's Witness elders where they get the authority to act in God's name and you'll be met with a blank look. Some will say they get it when they're baptized -- that they become ordained ministers. But this is absurd and is nowhere taught in the scriptures.
Peter spoke about the restoration of the gospel. As recorded in the book of Acts, he told the Jews:
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. (Acts 3:19-21)
As LDS writer Milton Backman notes:
Like most Protestants, [the restorationists] held that priesthood was conferred not by the laying on of hands by those having authority but was a direct endowment from God to believers. Consequently, they were searching for principles and practices other Protestants had failed to recover. ...
In some respects, Joseph Smith’s quest for truth was more in harmony with that of Roger Williams than Alexander Campbell’s. Both Joseph Smith and Roger Williams believed in the disruption and vanishing of the true apostolic church. Both held that churches which they investigated taught correct doctrines and that a recovery without divine intervention was impossible. Both also sought a restoration of authority by heavenly messengers.I obviously lack the time and space to make my point; however, here's a debate posted to a churches of Christ website between Bill Jackson, of the Southwest church of Christ and me (conducted in 1984). It explains why I believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God and the LDS Church to be the literal restoration spoken of by Peter. Remember that he said the Father would “send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you, whom the heaven must receive until the restoration of all things.” Jesus Christ came to Joseph Smith while he was still a young boy, and he was subsequently tutored by many of the prophets of the past from Adam to Peter.
Since that debate many other evidences have been discovered about the Book of Mormon that adds to its veracity. The bottom line is that the LDS Church has apostles, prophets, teachers, deacons, elders, bishops, priests, seventy and evangelists (patriarchs), receives revelation as the ancient church did, and it has the authority that was given to the ancient church. I know of no other church that meets the criteria of the ancient church.
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Do religious people fear that their religion may be wrong???
by James Mixon inbecause there are so many religions in the world and it is obvious that no matter what the truth is, a large population of people will be wrong about it.
we at one time believe we had the truth and 99% of the world population were in darkness, but i wonder about folks in other religions today.
speaking with a christian friend about this and he told me," that's for god to decide, i hope i'am serving god"...the sad thing about all of this if one die and still believe in his religion, he will never know he was in the wrong religion.
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David_Jay » ...none of the doctrines Jesus or the Christians taught were particular new or strange.
That is an astounding claim, David. How about the concepts of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit? Or the messianic claims you say aren't messianic at all? When Jesus died, he went, in spirit, to teach the spirits in prison, particularly those who lived in the days of Noah. And what of all the other teachings? How about baptism for the dead (1 Cor. 15:29)? It's not practiced by many modern Christians, but we know work for the dead was a major part of first century Christianity. Or the concept that all must be baptized of the water and the spirit to gain salvation? There are many Christian beliefs that are very new to Judaism.
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Do religious people fear that their religion may be wrong???
by James Mixon inbecause there are so many religions in the world and it is obvious that no matter what the truth is, a large population of people will be wrong about it.
we at one time believe we had the truth and 99% of the world population were in darkness, but i wonder about folks in other religions today.
speaking with a christian friend about this and he told me," that's for god to decide, i hope i'am serving god"...the sad thing about all of this if one die and still believe in his religion, he will never know he was in the wrong religion.
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David_Jay » I am not offended by LDS beliefs. I find proselytizing repulsive. ... What Jews find repulsive from any group is proselytizing, the claim that a person requires a change to another religious view and practice, often at the expense of giving up their cultural practices (dress, worship, holy days, etc.) or the demand that they adopt new ones.
But proselytizing is an LDS belief. And because of what you say (and it's an exceptional argument), that's probably the reason the times of the Jews must follow that of the Gentiles. The Jewish culture must not be lost under any circumstances, and what we deem as the old testament scriptures backs that up. In fact, after the return of Christ, Zechariah states (chapter 14) that any of Israel's neighbors -- the ones that launched the great war against them and were defeated by the Messiah in battle (Armageddon) -- that do not go up to Jerusalem to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles, shall suffer the judgments of Yahweh.
But the Jews will at that day will not escape proselytizing. As soon as they accept Jesus, as we believe, they will as a nation be anxious to learn all they can about their Messiah. In the opening section of our book of commandments, the Lord commands us to proselytize:
1 Hearken, O ye people of my church, saith the voice of him who dwells on high, and whose eyes are upon all men; yea, verily I say: Hearken ye people from afar; and ye that are upon the islands of the sea, listen together.
2 For verily the voice of the Lord is unto all men, and there is none to escape; and there is no eye that shall not see, neither ear that shall not hear, neither heart that shall not be penetrated.
3 And the rebellious shall be pierced with much sorrow; for their iniquities shall be spoken upon the housetops, and their secret acts shall be revealed.
4 And the voice of warning shall be unto all people, by the mouths of my disciples, whom I have chosen in these last days.
5 And they shall go forth and none shall stay them, for I the Lord have commanded them.
6 Behold, this is mine authority, and the authority of my servants, and my preface unto the book of mycommandments, which I have given them to publish unto you, O inhabitants of the earth.
7 Wherefore, fear and tremble, O ye people, for what I the Lord have decreed in them shall be fulfilled.
8 And verily I say unto you, that they who go forth, bearing these tidings unto the inhabitants of the earth, to them is power given to seal both on earth and in heaven, the unbelieving and rebellious....
So proselytizing is our belief. In Israel we don't proselytize, but occasionally convert Jews in this country. In fact, one of the best speakers I've heard in the church is a Cohen. And though he's a latter-day saint, he never have up his culture. Unlike the JWs, we don't forbid worshipping at other churches or synagogues, and he still kept his family's holy days (which he said were still his).
The first century Christians proselytized the Jews until the times of the Gentiles were ushered in. And the times of the Gentiles will continue until they reject it, then it will go to the Jews. So we can't not proselytize because it's our mission, given by what we believe is divine decree, and our current prophet upholds it. Whatever happens, though, the Jewish culture and tradition will survive.
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Do religious people fear that their religion may be wrong???
by James Mixon inbecause there are so many religions in the world and it is obvious that no matter what the truth is, a large population of people will be wrong about it.
we at one time believe we had the truth and 99% of the world population were in darkness, but i wonder about folks in other religions today.
speaking with a christian friend about this and he told me," that's for god to decide, i hope i'am serving god"...the sad thing about all of this if one die and still believe in his religion, he will never know he was in the wrong religion.
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Vanderhoven7 » I believe Mormons, like JWs, are in a cult. But being in a cult does not mean you can't be a Christian.
As a Mormon, I agree. We are a cult in the strict sense of the word, even as the first century Christians were a cult. As originally defined, a cult is a religion based on a larger, more recognized religion. But they alter that religion, adding a new spin and new base material such as scripture, often significantly at odds with the base religion. A cult also generally involves a central authority figure (or group) that holds total power over the cult and dictates its base beliefs.
As Moses led his people and taught them, Jesus taught new doctrines that were strange to the base religion of Judaism. The Jews heard those doctrines and said, "this is not the messianic concept we were expecting. Blasphemy!" This also was the reaction of modern Christians to many of the teachings of Joseph Smith.
Unlike other cults, first century Christianity and Mormonism both had central leaders who weren't one-man bands. Almost from their earliest beginnings, they began laying the groundwork for those who would follow. Jesus spent forty days with his apostles, teaching them things that were so holy they weren't passed down in their fullness to the rest of the church; and Joseph Smith called together the twelve apostles of his day just a few months before his death and conveyed upon them all the keys and authority he'd been given. Then he told them it was up to them to round up their shoulders and bear off the Kingdom of God. "If you do not do it," he said, "you will be damned." (One wonders why a fraud would go through the trouble of planning the future of his movement. In fact, I know of no other case where this has happened except early Christianity and Mormonism.)
In cases of cults by other modern leaders, they created the movement, then sought divine acceptance. Alexander Campbell, Joseph Rutherford, Herbert W. Armstrong, David Pack and others who taught that God is the same yesterday, today and forever acknowledged that He was an active force anciently, but argued that in modern times He had become a passive force instead. "Build it, and HE will come," was their philosophy, but that had never happened anciently. "God built it and THEY will come" had always been the old way.
God was the active element and man the passive. In Mormonism, God called Joseph Smith, gave him the necessary authority and built the church on a foundation of apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ being the chief cornerstone.
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Do religious people fear that their religion may be wrong???
by James Mixon inbecause there are so many religions in the world and it is obvious that no matter what the truth is, a large population of people will be wrong about it.
we at one time believe we had the truth and 99% of the world population were in darkness, but i wonder about folks in other religions today.
speaking with a christian friend about this and he told me," that's for god to decide, i hope i'am serving god"...the sad thing about all of this if one die and still believe in his religion, he will never know he was in the wrong religion.
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David_Jay » The idea that people should be subject to proselytizing, being told they must change their current convictions or even some of their cultural traits or beliefs less they get less of a reward than others in eternity, that I find appalling. As long as my neighbor is just, they needn't be anything more than they already are. ... Proselytizing, as you know, is considered an act of anti-Semitism by Jews when Mormons attempt it with us. And I personally view the act just as insulting of an action toward anyone else for it tells a person that they have change something or lose out for not doing so.
It's unfortunate that some Jews have these views, but Christianity came forth from Judaism and it revealed many things the Jews didn't know. In Christian dogma, Jesus not only is the Messiah, he is the God of Israel and the redeemer and savior of mankind. At the time Gabriel appeared to Zachariah in the temple and later to Mary to announce the birth of Jesus, the Jews had not had a prophet for 400 years and were again in a state of apostasy. Jesus taught them about life after death, the purpose of life, the consequences of sin and the redemption of man.
Today Jews may not agree with the revelations of God to the early Christians, just as many Gentiles reject the revelations of God to Joseph Smith and other prophets. In both cases the word of God came just as it did anciently. In both movements there were miracles and witnesses (just as there were in the days of Moses). In each case where Smith received authority from angelic ministers, one other man was present, thus fulfilling the ancient law of witnesses. Three men witnessed the angel and the metal plates of the Book of Mormon, and eight others saw only the plates. My point is that the Jews might consider that their beliefs may need to be updated.
Why would God create man with no eternal soul, give him laws and give them land if this is all there is? And if what we say is true, or if we simply believe it to be true, why would the Jews be offended that we would want to share that with them. (No one's holding a sword to their throats as some other religions do.)
In our theology, we are not yet sent to the Jews. What began with the Jews is now the days of the Gentiles, and when the Gentiles reject it (as prophesied), it will again go to the house of Israel. Thus the first shall become last and the last will become first. And, as in the days of Jesus, we really have no choice but to make the Jews, at that time, subject to proselytizing because, like it or not, the day is coming according to our beliefs, when the Jews will be converted to Jesus Christ in a single day:
“And then shall the Jews look upon me and say: What are these wounds in thine hands and in thy feet? Then shall they know that I am the Lord; for I will say unto them: These wounds are the wounds with which I was a wounded in the house of my friends. I am he who was lifted up. I am Jesus that was crucified. I am the Son of God. And then shall they weep because of their iniquities; then shall they lament because they persecuted their king. And then shall the a heathen nations be redeemed, and they that knew no law shall have part in the first resurrection; and it shall be tolerable for them.”
Finally, the Book of Mormon prophet Nephi wrote:
“At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, and shall be lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations, and above all the people of the whole earth, and shall be filled with all manner of lyings, and of deceits, and of mischiefs, and all manner of hypocrisy, and murders, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, and of secret abominations; and if they shall do all those things, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, behold, saith the Father, I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them. And then will I remember my covenant which I have made unto my people, O house of Israel, and I will bring my gospel unto them. And I will show unto thee, O house of Israel, that the Gentiles shall not have power over you; but I will remember my covenant unto you, O house of Israel, and ye shall come unto the knowledge of the fulness of my gospel.” (3 Nephi 16:10-12)
Jews should not be offended because of our beliefs because what's the harm in it? If Jesus is the Messiah, the King, the God of Israel, wouldn't they want to know that? If it was he who conversed with Moses for hours at a time and gave Israel its Law, why would that be offensive to them? And if Christianity and Mormonism is naught but a sham, all they have to say is no! We don't agree. But if it's not a sham, we really have no more choice than than the early Christian movement under Peter. According to NT scripture, the resurrected Christ spent 40 days with his apostles, teaching them the mysteries of the kingdom of God. This is the way he has always taught his people, life upon line. We certainly mean no offense to Jews by seeking to share with them a knowledge of their own God.
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Do religious people fear that their religion may be wrong???
by James Mixon inbecause there are so many religions in the world and it is obvious that no matter what the truth is, a large population of people will be wrong about it.
we at one time believe we had the truth and 99% of the world population were in darkness, but i wonder about folks in other religions today.
speaking with a christian friend about this and he told me," that's for god to decide, i hope i'am serving god"...the sad thing about all of this if one die and still believe in his religion, he will never know he was in the wrong religion.
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The argument that a particular religion is right while other religions are "wrong" is repulsive to many because, in most cases, it carries the implication that the right go to heaven while those who see not the light wallow irredeemably in condemnation. The Jehovah's Witnesses see their God as merciful and are determined to see their religious competitors eliminated rather than incarcerated. Evangelicals are in the untenable position of, on the one hand, preaching that their God is one of love, but that if one fails to experience a mystical event in accepting Jesus Christ, he will consign you on the day of judgment to suffer in a lake of fire forever -- that is, untold trillions of years suffering while he and the faithful dwell in eternal bliss. But...how one can enjoy the eternities while their loved ones are writhing in Hell is, to me, one of the great inconsistencies of their religion.
The Muslim Heaven actually rises above Hell so the righteous can enjoy a pleasant evening dining with beautiful women and looking down on the eternal suffering of the wicked and gloat.
This is one of the problems with religions that claim exclusivity: the fate of others. Mormonism doesn't have this problem, and that's one reason I was attracted to the religion. Evangelical Christians have been known to publicly condemn other Christians for suggesting that Jews who don't accept Jesus in this life can be saved. They argue that this life is the only place and time where one has the ability to accept Christ, and if you don't, you will suffer for eternity.
But these religions miss a crucial fact. In the Book of Revelation, it specifically mentions those who inherit damnation: “the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” Notice a term that is often neglected in many translations: “their portions.” A portion is something that is meted out. It does not mean eternity.
I could have no part in a religion, nor worship a God that would be so unjust as to torture someone just for the sake of torture. The LDS views Hell as remedial. Fire not only burns, it refines, and Joseph Smith taught that in Hell, man is his own tormentor. The fire is not literal, but according to a revelation: “For behold, I, God, have suffered these things for all, that they might not suffer if they would repent; But if they would not repent they must suffer even as I; which suffering caused myself, even God, the greatest of all, to tremble because of pain, and to bleed at every pore, and to suffer both body and spirit.” It's this suffering that causes the wicked to see their sins in God's context. So whatever Hell is, it doesn't include people who are of other faiths.
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